
Between titles like Metaphor ReFantazio and Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, to name just two, SEGA has had one helluva year. But the company is not done yet: it’s announced a new Virtua Fighter, is bringing back fan favourites likes Crazy Taxi, and even seems to have Sonic the Hedgehog sprinting in a straight line these days.
Speaking with the BBC ahead of the new Sonic the Hedgehog movie’s release, president Shuji Utsumi revealed his company is pondering some kind of subscription service for its games.
“We're thinking something – and discussing something – we cannot disclose right now,” he said, adding that he considers subscriptions “very interesting”.
Many of the biggest publishers, like EA and Ubisoft, offer their own subscription services these days. Furthermore, PS Plus is a platform-wide solution that spans both the PS5 and PS4, offering a catalogue of on-demand games to download and stream, contingent upon which tier you pay for.
These comments about subscriptions are particularly pertinent, because the publisher recently announced plans to delist a ton of its retro games across multiple platforms. As we pointed out at the time, this suggested to us that it was plotting a new way to package them, perhaps as a subscription.
Nintendo, for example, has found enormous success offering a growing catalogue of its classic games as part of its Nintendo Switch Online offering – and SEGA Mega Drive is even one of the consoles offered.
It’ll be interesting to see what emerges here. Our guess, from Utsumi’s comments, is that whatever is being considered is far from final, so it may be some time before we get complete clarity on what it’s plotting. Would you be interested in some kind of SEGA subscription, though?
Would you join some kind of SEGA subscription? (799 votes)
- Yes, I'm a huge SEGA fan so I'm sure it'd appeal to me
- Maybe, it depends on what they have to offer
- No, I'm tired of paying for various different subscriptions
[source bbc.com, via nintendolife.com]
Comments 57
No I'm sick of subscriptions
@Keyblade-Dan I'm sick to death of them as well, enough is enough!
@Keyblade-Dan This, but I would gladly insta-buy another one of those Sega Collections they released for PS4. Especially if Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles were included.
I will avoid a subscription to anything if I can.
This would be right up my street. I'd consider downgrading my PS Plus a level to make up the difference, if the games offered were good enough
Yup, the “Netflixifiction” of gaming continues! This is exactly why I’ve never wanted services like Game Pass and Plus!
Nah I've had enough of subscriptions. PS Plus Essential does me perfectly fine these days. Enjoyed the couple years on Extra and Premium for what it has to offer but ultimately never have enough time to enjoy a majority of what's on offer when on Premium. PS Plus Essential offerings have some good months combined with a huge neverending purchased backlog of games seems to be a comfort spot rn and going forward. Adding more subs to that just makes things messy or rushing games just for the sake of quickly starting the next
They all want a piece of the pie, yet miss the fact that PS Plus numbers are only what they are due to the need for online play, and (with the higher tiers) the gargantuan selection of games. Sega can't offer either of those things.
As it is, you'll probably get people subbing for a month or two to play the Sega game they want, and then tapping out. Which in turn loses them a boatload of cash from sales.
Watching the industry slowly eat itself sure is a wild ride.
To quote that Ubisoft guy "people should get use to not owning their games", If we keep allowing all these subscriptions to flourish, then I'm afraid to say he's right....
@Oram77 Another reason why I oppose them so much
@Keyblade-Dan 100% - it’s a total money drain. Next thing you realise is you have a ton of micro subscriptions draining your income every month.
Buy a game own it, preferably physical but I would understand why people like digital.
Depends what it is. I own the Sega titles I’ve liked the last two generations. Next year, I’ll be down to Dashpass, Netflix, NSO, Gamepass, and PS+
At my subscription limit personally. Something has to go if I get a new one. Sega do make a lot of RPGs though, so maybe they'd get a chance of being in the group if it was good enough.
It really depends on how they handle it. They did something like this once in the late 2000s and it didn't go well.
I just want to be able to buy and play Skies of Arcadia on newish hardware. i don’t want another subscription service to play sonic the hedgehog 2
Definitely not. I left Sega for PlayStation in 96 and never went back as nothing they make ever interests me like Nintendo
We are going to have a subscription for each major publisher.
It’s always been heading this way since GP/plus.
At that point I’ll just sub a month play what I want then another month sub different.
So it means they will get way less money from me.
It could be good.but video games are getting cheap now.for the last couple of years.even at the 70$ price.games goes on sale really fast.word up son
I'd rather buy a game for a price, not like it but still have it in my collection, rather than paying for multiple subscriptions to have access to something.
Publishers should not have subscriptions, only platform holders. Where does it end? Let’s subdivide Sega into its core pillars and have a subsubscription for Sonic games, yakuza games and everything that falls under the Atlas umbrella.
This is absurd. This would be like if Marvel and Star Wars under Disney each had their own streaming services as well. Like my comments? Maybe I can work out a deal with Push Square where you can subscribe to my profile to get all my latest posts first, before releasing them a la carte in this comment section.
I’m not a fan of subscriptions, with no streaming or music subs. However, if there’s something that I really want to watch, I will rarely sub for a month to binge a series. The same could happen with a gaming subscription if it has content I’m interested in binging and then being done with.
I owned all 4 home Sega consoles growing up, and have a lot of love for their old arcade and console games. But have given up hoping for them to EVER release what I want, which is compilations of their arcade games, and compilations of something other than Sonic or Mega Drive games. IF this service had master system, Saturn and Dreamcast games, plus a load of their arcade games (at the minimum, the games included on the Astro City mini console), then much as I hate subscription services, I'd give it a go... but let me BUY the games!
Surely it would be more akin to Ubisoft+ or EA Play than PS+ right?
Though as good as Sega have been of late I’m not sure they have enough new games releasing to justify a monthly subscription. After a while it’s the additions rather than the old library that keep people subscribed.
But I’d be interested to see what they were offering and for how much. Choice is good.
Even more subscriptions man im sick and tired of Netflix /HBO /Prime /Disney/ Apple for movies alone. In the end it will get more and more expensive.
A historic collection in similar vein to Atari 50 featuring Arcade, MS, MD, Saturn & Dreamcast with histories etc. is my personal fantasy. (Here's hoping since Megadrive collection has been pulled from online stores).
Not another bloody subscription though.
Where’s the simple “No” option.
@Oram77 we don’t own our (digital) libraries anyway , but i know what you mean
A subscription for another collection of Megadrive roms, nah ur alright Sega, currently enjoying a pile of AM3 games on ma mini pc 😃
@Futureshark I would die happy if this happened
Instead of €30 for a Collection you pay €10 a month yeah no thanks.
I'd rather buy and own the classic games instead of having to get a subscription to play them.
As much as I hate subscription services, I'd be down for this if they included HD versions of a bunch of their dreamcast, saturn, og xbox and arcade games.
Dynamite deka, burning rangers, zombie revenge, HoTD, JSR, Planet harriers, Sega race tv, after burner climax, Motoraid, Spikeout, slashout, nights, daytona, outrunners, outrun 2, virtua cop, Gunblade NY, LA machinegun, the older virtua fighters, virtual on, space channel 5, magical truck adventure, lets go jungle/island, panzer dragoon, gun valkyrie, crazy taxi, fighters megamix, sonic the fighters, fighting vipers, etc etc. They have a LOT of cool stuff they could add.
I'd very much rather they released these as collections that you can just buy but thats probs never gonna happen if it still hasnt already. So its either having them in a sub service or waiting every few years for the next yakuza game to include one
My primary subscription I pay for before anything else is lyft pink for priority rides so I can get outta places without waiting to much 😅
They'd only find footing if they offer a big library of non-sega games as well. At the same time, games don't offer themselves so we'll to a subscription since many take 20+ hours to complete unlike a movie, TV show and music where it can make sense.
However, if I'd get a promise of a shenmue 4 I could be persuaded, though I would want it physical eventually.
I'm conflicted over this. On the one hand, Sega is my all-time favorite video game company, so anything it does will pique my interest. That said, I'm already subbed to PS Plus Premium, NSO + Expansion Pack and Game Pass Ultimate. If I'm going to sub to others, it has to be worth it.
Something Sega could do to entice me is offer a piece of hardware that's capable of, at minimum, 4K, 60 fps, where I can get all its games, past, present and future.
Most people saying no are probably not old enough to appreciate true SEGA.
This would be amazing. If Ubisoft and EA can do it with their boring yearly franchises why can’t SEGA be an option for those who would appreciate it?
I would be very interested in this.
As someone who grew up mostly on Nintendo and Sony consoles, I skipped a lot of SEGA games and would say I’m generally quite ignorant about their catalogue of titles. I recognise a few big names (e.g., Phantasy Star, Sonic, etc.), but don’t really have any meaningful experience playing them.
A subscription service would allow gamers like me to explore the SEGA catalogue with relative ease of access. I’d be especially interested in playing older titles from the Saturn and Dreamcast eras.
But I do get what others are saying about there being too many subscription services. I already pay for PS Plus Premium (temporarily suspended as I just bought a car) and Game Pass Ultimate. I love both, but it’s expensive.
Nevertheless, I’d be very intrigued by a SEGA subscription service. We’ll see ….
Just put the damn games on plus/gamepass like you've already been doing.
This will be why they pulled the Sega Mega Drive classics listing from storefronts, very glad I already own it.
Sega being tone deaf and making bad business decisions? Classic Sega is back!
I am sick of subscriptions but if there is one company I’d subscribe to, it’s Sega. Great archives, great current tiles, exciting forthcoming games.
a free to play like Capcom Arcade Stadium with maybe a free game on rotation every week and everything else as dlc?
I'd much prefer that.
No interest in sub services, people I know may use them.
I get old games physical, do you think I care.
Give us Sega CD or 32X, not the same recycled games from the Genesis/Mega Drive. I'd emulate the Dreamcast/Saturn more for sure but to me the VMU is also a worth while experience.
Sega will recycle the same Genesis games or others if licenses work out for them over and over. Why should I care.
It's like Atari, getting different games via 50 or prior Atari collections/consoles. I got the few I wanted and that's it. 50 was good for Lynx/Jaguar, otherwise most 2600 games are the same ones most times. Pass.
When even PS+ (not counting Extra/Premium and Deluxe but Essential) make some games that are around $30 offered on Essential do you think I care if it's $30 6 months later like Grid Legends was for me I bought it around time of Gamepass, then it went to PS+ later. No because even if not the best was one of the few modern racing games I didn't hate besides it's still average design.
So to me sub services have fine lineups, removals, timing very late to care or I can get them cheap, so what why would I sub.
Besides if it's PS+ esque is that mean in terms of legacy, do you mean just old games, do you mean modern games, do you mean how it's structured of tiers?
Otherwise are they purchasable (knowing Sega I doubt it and sub cost rolling over year to year or whatever their plans are for payment) besides subbing as to me buying them for like under $8 or others like Mr Mosqutio at $15 is fine to me.
I mean Sega Forever on mobile was something but a subscription when haven't seen Sega subscriptions since the Genesis/Sega Channel or Dreamcast online service.
But a subscription service like EA/Ubisoft? I mean they need to offer Sega Rally/Sega GT first or a fake vehicles equivalent for me to care these days.
They can go oh retro games on our service besides the collections or NSO but I mean offer Saturn games, Dreamcast, Master System, Game Gear (besides 3DS when they did). Or the Game Gear Minis.
Like they have so many IPs and use a lot of Yakuza/Persona and Sonic, like give us something else.
Sure Crazy Taxi/Jet Set Radio but I highly have hopes for them not being gameplay bland when Crazy Taxi can be expanded alot if done well but many racing/any open worlds can have thematic tasks but very boring to play gameplay tasks. I find at least.
Sure Alex Kidd got his remake or whichever that was release.
Will they offer a better modern Golden Axe or just re-release the old ones all the time.
Same for other IPs what they are going to do with them recycle them over and over. Seems a bit ridiculous.
At least Streets of Rage 4 was good.
They have a lot of old IPs but eh to me it's like Capcom/Konami I won't see a PN03 or Under the Skin modern port. Under The Skin could be a streamer game and good modern party game but nope.
Coded Arms, Love Plus, GTI Club, Thrilldrive would be great, but doubt they will be revived any time soon.
I don't want to pay for another subscription so no thanks.
Ah. So, "no" to Saturn and Dreamcast mini consoles, but "yes" to monthly billing to play their games... Really wish they'd reconsider the mini consoles.
We have emulation on our PCs for things like this, for free, don't need a subscription service
Please no. Actually having to make a game worth buying is why games are good in the first place. As soon as subscription models take over it no longer pays for companies to invest 6 years making a masterpiece like Zelda or Final Fantasy.
Since they started pulling their own games from storefronts it seemed pretty obvious a streaming service was on the cards. I’m amazed no outlets picked up on this months ago
I have House of the Dead 3 & 4, Outrun Online Arcade, Afterburner Climax, Daytona USA, Super Hang-On and Sega Rally Online Arcade sitting pretty on my PS3 so as long as it lives I'm good!
I heard sega did a subscription service for the mega drive from 94 to 99.
i find it very odd that sega, after selling the bulk of its legacy titles via compilations and digital releases, suddenly felt it was necessary to pull the plug and delist them... in the hopes that people will PANIC and subscribe to their new service. would it be too "honest" of sega to offer an option to its loyal fans instead of forcing this initiative down their throat? of course it would. i hope you guys were able to snatch up that sega genesis classics disc (ps4) before sega pulled the digital listing (that release is surely to go up in value now so that's good!) or picked up a genesis mini when they were available... or one of the many other classic compilations (too many to list here) over the past several decades, dating back to the ps2? the point is, there is no reason to subscribe to a service if you already own the majority of sega's legacy catalogue. probably better off emulating them anyways for optimal performance. and surely, this is not the way to go about it if you don't want to piss off or alienate your fans.
@Koren616 their mini consoles have done well for them. in the case of the dreamcast and saturn, they are probably waiting for an adequate board to be available that is financially feasible and able to run the games optimally. i doubt they will want to sell a mini console that exceeds $150USD so its just a matter of sourcing the necessary compnents and/or waiting until they are cheap enough. i'd expect the saturn (and possibly the dreamcast) mini's to be limited to japan, though, due to their failure in the west upon their original release.
Would maybe explain why they delisted the Sega Mega Drive Collection on all Digital store fronts early December. A lot of those games if not all are only available under Nintendo online Subscription. The disc version on console has gone up in price in selected 2nd hand stores I've seen, I was hoping to see a remaster of Skies of Arcadia come out this gen since they announced those games at start of the year but no.
If they put it under a subscription not a chance I'm sick and tired of it all, here in the UK you pay the BBC nearly £200 a year and I don't watch it. My son does the kids channel and uses iPlayer but that's about it but he uses it everyday so it's fine if he wasn't I'd of stopped paying years ago
To me the combined setup of being able to buy and subscribe to a service like how Playstation has it is ideal. If they set it up like that instead of the Nintendo approach I think it could be cool
I subscribed to the Sega Channel for several years in the mid 90s. To see updated collections of retro and modern games available to stream, absolutely. It's just like every other streaming or subscription service of every type: don't want it, don't see value in it, don't subscribe.
If Sega are going to do this then I hope it's something that can be added to ps plus or gamepass, like ubi classics and ea play. They would have to get the pricing right though.
I imagine if videogames had been invented today, being able to purchase them individually wouldn't even be an option. Companies seem to be pushing subscriptions to be the default way to acquire everything now, and buying a standalone videogame/movie/album feels like it's becoming a relic of a bygone era.
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